1 00:00:09,420 --> 00:00:11,080 I definitely did not, please. 2 00:00:11,380 --> 00:00:12,380 Holy shit. 3 00:00:13,260 --> 00:00:16,400 Eric had nothing else going on, and I was an easy target. 4 00:00:16,820 --> 00:00:19,680 Yeah, she wants to play this villain now that everyone thought was cool. She was 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,680 smoking, so now she walks around puffing her cigarette, acting like an asshole 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,180 because people thought it was cool. You have fun with that. This is about the 7 00:00:26,180 --> 00:00:27,200 three of us coming apart. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:29,680 I'm ready. 9 00:00:30,740 --> 00:00:33,680 Tonight, the three -part Beverly Hills reunion begins. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,120 Do you think he was emotionally abusive to you, Tom? 11 00:00:37,790 --> 00:00:42,150 Kyle, if you do file for divorce, will you be asking for half of the agency? 12 00:00:42,790 --> 00:00:43,529 Well, it's mine. 13 00:00:43,530 --> 00:00:44,530 Did he realize that? 14 00:00:44,690 --> 00:00:51,450 You accused her of lashing out. In order to save my job, I fucking came unglued. 15 00:00:51,530 --> 00:00:52,570 Do you want to apologize? 16 00:00:53,210 --> 00:00:54,610 Apologize for what, Andy? 17 00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:58,110 She's saying that it made her flip. 18 00:00:58,470 --> 00:01:00,250 I didn't say it was a failure. Yes, you did. 19 00:01:00,490 --> 00:01:04,030 Get over it. Don't talk behind my back. I fucking told him. 20 00:01:04,730 --> 00:01:06,190 I'm very sorry. 21 00:01:06,910 --> 00:01:07,910 But do you mean it? 22 00:01:07,950 --> 00:01:11,430 No, Erica. I'm a cold -hearted fucking cunt. 23 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:14,690 I really like that word. 24 00:01:17,690 --> 00:01:19,050 Taking my selfie. 25 00:01:21,930 --> 00:01:25,430 Well, hi, Miss Brown. Beverly Hills is in the house, I see. 26 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:28,910 So pretty. 27 00:01:32,170 --> 00:01:34,210 Look at this showgirl. 28 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:35,470 Wow. 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,940 Hi. You look great. 30 00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:40,060 Thank you. Wow. It's time to put a show on. 31 00:01:41,180 --> 00:01:44,760 This is very heavy, I think. Dude, it's 74 pounds. This dress is going to be 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:50,140 hot. Oh, my God, you guys. This is what Rachel Doe wears to a reunion. 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,800 Yes. 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,460 Who is it, Rachel? 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,640 This is vintage Jim Endell. Oh, it's really gorgeous. Oh, my gosh. 36 00:01:58,140 --> 00:01:59,640 Not the car on the set. 37 00:01:59,940 --> 00:02:01,000 I've never had that before. 38 00:02:01,300 --> 00:02:02,600 Look at you matching the car. 39 00:02:03,070 --> 00:02:04,170 I really like it. 40 00:02:04,690 --> 00:02:06,270 Everybody looks gorgeous. 41 00:02:11,390 --> 00:02:12,450 Hello, everyone. 42 00:02:13,650 --> 00:02:14,770 It's so cool. 43 00:02:15,270 --> 00:02:16,209 Hi, Dorit. 44 00:02:16,210 --> 00:02:17,290 Here, I'm going to go this way. 45 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:25,370 All right, we're waiting for the money queen. Hey, Dorit, guess what? You 46 00:02:25,370 --> 00:02:27,090 weren't the last one. I know, baby. 47 00:02:27,830 --> 00:02:28,870 Hey, money queen. 48 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:30,190 Hi, how are you? 49 00:02:31,210 --> 00:02:32,910 Hello. Hello. Hello. 50 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:33,969 Are you ready? 51 00:02:33,970 --> 00:02:34,970 I guess. 52 00:02:34,990 --> 00:02:35,990 Yes, I am. 53 00:02:36,470 --> 00:02:40,870 Camera's up. And to Andy in 3, 2, 1. 54 00:02:41,650 --> 00:02:46,390 Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season 15 55 00:02:46,390 --> 00:02:51,010 reunion. I'm Andy Cohen, and here's what I'm manifesting today. 56 00:02:51,670 --> 00:02:55,130 Friendship, conflict, followed by resolution. 57 00:02:56,510 --> 00:03:00,510 And our set is manifesting the iconic Rodeo Drive. 58 00:03:00,970 --> 00:03:02,210 Good evening, ladies. 59 00:03:02,730 --> 00:03:04,130 Good evening, Andy. 60 00:03:04,510 --> 00:03:08,290 Hi, Rachel Joan. Hi, Andy. Everyone's obsessed with your boys. 61 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:09,550 Oh, me too. 62 00:03:09,810 --> 00:03:11,050 They love their mom. 63 00:03:11,550 --> 00:03:17,010 Has Skylar bought an Hermes bangle for any girls lately? No, I have to say when 64 00:03:17,010 --> 00:03:17,929 that's okay. 65 00:03:17,930 --> 00:03:18,990 Skylar, I love this. 66 00:03:19,770 --> 00:03:22,350 Don't just buy any random girl an Hermes bracelet. 67 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:24,310 Okay. Did he use his allowance? 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:26,160 He did. 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:27,800 That's really good. 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Hey, Amanda, welcome to your first reunion. 71 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,180 Thank you. What are you manifesting for today? 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Be myself. 73 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,620 Say the truth. 74 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:37,980 Maybe have some fun. 75 00:03:38,380 --> 00:03:39,980 Okay. Hi, Sutton Brown. 76 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:42,640 Hello. Sutton Brown's first reunion. 77 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:46,700 Yes. Easy breezy. Easy breezy. Hi, Erica. 78 00:03:47,020 --> 00:03:49,100 Hey. How you doing? I'm good. 79 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:50,860 How is DJing going? 80 00:03:51,450 --> 00:03:54,930 Honey, I had two fabulous weeks in Australia. Oh, yeah. 81 00:03:55,150 --> 00:04:01,790 I had the best time. Look, I get to wear 82 00:04:01,790 --> 00:04:07,170 latex and play other people's records and have a good time. I like it. Hi, 83 00:04:07,470 --> 00:04:08,890 Hello. Let's see that ring. 84 00:04:09,170 --> 00:04:10,790 Wow. Exciting. 85 00:04:11,250 --> 00:04:14,650 Beautiful. I do have a special request. Oh, okay. 86 00:04:14,930 --> 00:04:17,110 For my Beverly Hills wedding. 87 00:04:17,950 --> 00:04:20,450 I would love for you to DJ part of the wedding. Absolutely. 88 00:04:20,730 --> 00:04:23,610 Consider it done. Thank you. Thank you. That's so great. 89 00:04:24,290 --> 00:04:27,850 Hi, Dory. Hi, Andy. Great to see you. Good to see you. How are you feeling 90 00:04:27,850 --> 00:04:34,290 tonight? Good. Good. Great. Hi, Kyle. Hi, Andy. Kyle, you are officially 91 00:04:34,290 --> 00:04:39,190 longest running consecutive housewife across all franchises. Wow. This is your 92 00:04:39,190 --> 00:04:42,750 15th season, 15th straight reunion. 93 00:04:43,330 --> 00:04:44,530 How does it feel? 94 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:45,899 I'm still standing. 95 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:46,900 She deserves applause. 96 00:04:48,060 --> 00:04:51,220 That's an achievement. 97 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,060 So before we get into it, I just want to talk about where everyone stands 98 00:04:55,060 --> 00:05:01,320 because the once rock -solid friendships of Kyle, Dorit, and Erica were 99 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,500 shaken, which impacted really the whole group. 100 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:11,640 Do you all think that we can land in a positive spot by the end of the day? 101 00:05:12,260 --> 00:05:13,920 I would love that. 102 00:05:14,670 --> 00:05:16,750 You would? Of course I would love that. 103 00:05:17,010 --> 00:05:20,670 What do you think, Dorit? I mean, listen, I'd always love that, but you 104 00:05:20,670 --> 00:05:22,130 be realistic, you know. 105 00:05:22,470 --> 00:05:23,490 See how the day goes. 106 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:26,070 Erica? I don't have much hope. 107 00:05:26,970 --> 00:05:28,530 Really? No. 108 00:05:28,770 --> 00:05:29,770 Okay. 109 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:35,180 When new housewife Rachel Zoe saw how excited fans were that she was back on 110 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:40,120 Bravo, she probably said, I'm dead. I can't. Are you okay? 111 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:45,600 And while the other women marveled at how stylish and put together their new 112 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:50,980 friend was, Rachel's home life was undergoing a painful new makeover. Take 113 00:05:50,980 --> 00:05:51,980 look. Oh, God. 114 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,960 Hello. My name is Rachel Doe. You may or may not remember me from Bravo because 115 00:05:58,960 --> 00:05:59,960 I've lived here before. 116 00:06:00,260 --> 00:06:01,260 I'm so crazy. 117 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,960 Oh my God, I have that bag. I'm a little bit in awe of her because she is one of 118 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,860 the most famous stylists in Hollywood. 119 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,280 People are always like, oh my God, you have it so together. But on the inside, 120 00:06:12,420 --> 00:06:14,560 I'm like, oh my God, I'm like crumbling. 121 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:16,600 I think we've outgrown each other. 122 00:06:17,580 --> 00:06:20,380 He's always been grateful, Dad, and I've always been St. Bart. Do you know that 123 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:21,920 my ex has this girlfriend, right? 124 00:06:22,140 --> 00:06:23,140 My kids are leaving. 125 00:06:23,420 --> 00:06:24,560 She fucking appears. 126 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:29,000 Dad was there, and it was just like, this is my friend, and it was like, hi, 127 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,820 I was like, hi, and I just looked away, and I was like, oh, that's the person. 128 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:39,260 It's an absolute myriad of bad decisions that have been made over the last 129 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:46,040 month, the last week, the last fucking hour that would trigger me to move 130 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,040 things forward. 131 00:06:47,100 --> 00:06:53,640 it's everywhere like it's everywhere he will be the greatest disappointment of 132 00:06:53,640 --> 00:07:00,220 my life forever i'm great i'm great it came as no 133 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:04,800 surprise uh the bravo verse was very excited to welcome you back into the 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,900 what did that tidal wave feel like honestly the love has 135 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,900 truthfully been overwhelming. 136 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:15,460 And I think it's part of the fear of coming back in is, you know, having 137 00:07:15,460 --> 00:07:21,080 survived the tabloid era of being the subject of fodder a lot. 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,060 I came in like they're going to come for me. They're going to hate me. So it was 139 00:07:25,060 --> 00:07:29,200 scary. But I also feel that I was a lot more open than I thought I would be. 140 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,100 You were a lot more open truthfully than I thought you were going to be to tell 141 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:40,010 you the truth. Was there any part of you that Wanted to get back at Roger 142 00:07:40,010 --> 00:07:41,390 by coming on the show? No. 143 00:07:41,610 --> 00:07:42,830 Not even a little. 144 00:07:43,850 --> 00:07:49,250 I have to assume, though, that now that the show is airing, is he seeing things 145 00:07:49,250 --> 00:07:50,250 and getting upset? 146 00:07:50,350 --> 00:07:51,750 Yeah. I think he hears. 147 00:07:52,110 --> 00:07:53,990 I'm sure that people tell him. 148 00:07:54,510 --> 00:08:00,850 You know, listen, the only thing I could say very honestly is some really bad 149 00:08:00,850 --> 00:08:06,030 things happened in real time this summer that were quite shocking, and there's a 150 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:07,030 lot that I didn't say. 151 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,180 Do you regret it? Do you regret being open? 152 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,240 I don't really regret anything that I said because I definitely meant it. And 153 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,080 honestly don't mean it. But look, here's the thing. The truth is painful 154 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:24,660 sometimes. Yeah. But overall, definitely not. Because I think if it helps as 155 00:08:24,660 --> 00:08:27,040 many people as I would like it to, then I think that's great. 156 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,680 And you know. 157 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,760 And it helps you. Moving on to your divorce, we saw you file on the show. 158 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,299 Is it resolved yet? No, but soon. 159 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:42,039 We know that you weren't happy when Roger's new girlfriend saw the boys at 160 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:44,520 airport. Do you have a relationship with her at all? 161 00:08:44,780 --> 00:08:47,020 Are you okay? I do okay. Are you okay? 162 00:08:47,420 --> 00:08:49,200 Steve and I married coming up. Andy. 163 00:08:49,660 --> 00:08:51,000 I have to ask. No. 164 00:08:51,220 --> 00:08:52,480 No. And not ever. 165 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,800 And no. 166 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:56,160 Does he have any relationship with your parents? 167 00:08:56,540 --> 00:08:57,540 No. 168 00:08:58,060 --> 00:08:59,120 My dad can't really. 169 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:06,260 My mother is more able to talk to him because for her, she's very much like 170 00:09:06,260 --> 00:09:10,980 he's the father of my grandchildren. So I did have him at Thanksgiving because 171 00:09:10,980 --> 00:09:14,800 my mother, we were all in Miami, and he happened to have been there with a 172 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,980 friend, like a guy friend. And my mother was basically like, we need to invite 173 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:25,180 him at least for dessert or whatever. And I did, and he stayed. I thought it 174 00:09:25,180 --> 00:09:26,240 going to be dessert, but it was. 175 00:09:26,490 --> 00:09:31,830 From 9 to, like, 1 a .m. Wow. And Roger's relationship with the boys is... 176 00:09:31,830 --> 00:09:33,730 good now. Better. Much, much better. 177 00:09:33,990 --> 00:09:34,990 Good. 178 00:09:35,130 --> 00:09:39,990 Rachel, when you shared your story about a pre -engagement hookup with a model, 179 00:09:40,510 --> 00:09:44,630 Kyle, you said in an interview, what kind of marriage are you setting 180 00:09:44,630 --> 00:09:45,630 up for? 181 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:49,670 I cheated on you, and guess what? I got a big diamond the next day. 182 00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:52,410 I mean, that's sort of setting the precedent, no? 183 00:09:53,290 --> 00:09:54,129 For diamonds. 184 00:09:54,130 --> 00:09:56,070 You cheat and you get diamonds. No. That's great. 185 00:09:56,350 --> 00:09:59,130 But here's the thing. I met him when I was 19. 186 00:09:59,510 --> 00:10:05,390 For me to have made out with one guy in the span of 34 years. Oh, I thought you 187 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:06,390 had sex with somebody. 188 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:07,790 Girl. No. 189 00:10:08,730 --> 00:10:10,670 I said we fooled around. 190 00:10:11,190 --> 00:10:15,010 Oh, I thought sex. That's why I was like, wow. Well, I was wrong. No, that 191 00:10:15,010 --> 00:10:16,870 have been a whole different conversation. 192 00:10:17,870 --> 00:10:19,150 In happy news. 193 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,900 You were recently photographed on a red carpet with some guy called Sasha. 194 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,160 Is that a thing? 195 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:30,320 Do you have something to tell me? I'm hot. What did she say? 196 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:31,659 It was a friend. 197 00:10:31,660 --> 00:10:37,020 Kim from Cincinnati said, wait, is Rachel dating a life coach who sells 198 00:10:37,020 --> 00:10:38,580 courses like Amanda? 199 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:39,880 I would die. 200 00:10:50,700 --> 00:10:55,980 Kim from Cincinnati said, wait, is Rachel dating a life coach who sells 201 00:10:55,980 --> 00:10:57,600 courses like Amanda? 202 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:58,959 I would die. 203 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,040 Is that what he does? He's more of a... 204 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:09,040 It's more of 205 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,860 like a mind -body alignment, basically. 206 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:17,920 Alignment? Basically getting people back to a place of, you know, center of 207 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,940 forgiveness, things like that. I'm not a client. 208 00:11:20,860 --> 00:11:24,620 He's a friend. Okay. You do know how many times I've said he's a friend. A 209 00:11:24,620 --> 00:11:27,800 good -looking, tall friend. Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to move on. 210 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:34,980 With a husband in prison and a $25 million lawsuit on the horizon, the past 211 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:41,720 few years have given Erica a million different reasons to keep her walls 212 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,280 up. Sorry for that transition. I am laughing at this. But after decades of 213 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,620 walking on thin ice with Tom, A new gentleman in Erica's life melted this 214 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:54,000 queen's heart. Watch. 215 00:11:54,560 --> 00:11:55,560 This is an intro. 216 00:11:55,780 --> 00:11:56,780 Okay, Erica. 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,900 Yeah. Who is this guy that the picture of the paparazzi caught you with the 218 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:01,900 other day? 219 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:06,580 What stood out most in those pictures was the fact that Erica had not a stitch 220 00:12:06,580 --> 00:12:11,180 of makeup, she was dressed totally down, and the guy was wearing crockery. 221 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,520 When I saw that picture, I thought she's so comfortable. 222 00:12:17,740 --> 00:12:20,700 Yeah, you looked very comfortable. And I felt like you felt safe with him. 223 00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:25,840 Yeah, there was no guard up. Erica, have you ever felt like you didn't have to 224 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,380 have your guard up? Not in a long time. 225 00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:33,060 I know that you're so over everything with Tom. 226 00:12:33,260 --> 00:12:34,260 Oh, I'm not over that. 227 00:12:35,980 --> 00:12:37,120 I'm heartbroken. 228 00:12:37,380 --> 00:12:38,319 Uh -huh. 229 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,460 Knowing he's going to die in prison. Right. That's heavy. 230 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,640 Certainly Tom's story. 231 00:12:44,619 --> 00:12:45,619 is ending. 232 00:12:46,580 --> 00:12:47,620 Mine is still ongoing. 233 00:12:48,060 --> 00:12:51,440 I saw this thing about Erica and I texted her. I'm worried about her. 234 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:56,540 Erica Jane headed to trial over $25 million spent during Tom Girardi's 235 00:12:57,140 --> 00:12:59,300 Wait, wait, I don't understand. She's headed to trial. 236 00:12:59,580 --> 00:13:01,940 What, do they think they're going to get $25 million from her back? 237 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,220 I wanted to talk to you about the black eye I saw. 238 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,860 I wanted you to know. 239 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,240 I went through this too. 240 00:13:11,820 --> 00:13:16,600 There's a lot of shame around that, getting hit or choked or kicked. 241 00:13:18,540 --> 00:13:24,400 What happened to you, look, you were very lucky that you survived. 242 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:30,160 And by speaking about it, that's the first step in letting go of it. 243 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,940 Are you sure I did the right thing? 244 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:35,400 I'm 100 % positive. 245 00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:37,520 Sure. Yeah. 246 00:13:37,940 --> 00:13:39,540 I know it for sure. 247 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Okay. 248 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,600 All right. 249 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:47,500 Erica, 250 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:54,180 I want to start by saying first how sorry and sad I am that you had to go 251 00:13:54,180 --> 00:13:55,460 through such a horrible experience. 252 00:13:55,940 --> 00:14:00,700 I also want to acknowledge how brave it was of you to share your story so 253 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:01,700 publicly. 254 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,160 Why did you feel like you wanted to share that? 255 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,980 Well, I'd held it for a long time. 256 00:14:08,140 --> 00:14:12,700 And had Denise not said anything, I probably wouldn't have said anything 257 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,160 Mm -hmm. What has the reaction been like from viewers? 258 00:14:17,020 --> 00:14:20,440 The one silver lining has been very positive. Thank you for coming forward. 259 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:25,760 too, have had this experience. And I think, you know, no one should have that 260 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,800 experience. But it's much more common than we know. 261 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,480 How did you get out of the relationship, if you don't mind me asking? I called 262 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:34,159 the cops. 263 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,160 You called the cops? 264 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,400 Yeah, that's how you get out. 265 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:37,900 You must have been so scared. 266 00:14:38,740 --> 00:14:39,740 Yeah, terrified. 267 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,020 I gave this person a chance to leave. 268 00:14:42,730 --> 00:14:43,730 They did not. 269 00:14:44,530 --> 00:14:45,970 And I was like, fuck, no, man. 270 00:14:46,430 --> 00:14:48,690 Okay. I have to call 911. 271 00:14:49,890 --> 00:14:54,730 So after this aired, you didn't hear from this person? 272 00:14:55,010 --> 00:14:56,010 No. 273 00:14:56,130 --> 00:14:58,330 No. Were you worried about that? 274 00:14:58,570 --> 00:14:59,570 It definitely occurred. 275 00:14:59,830 --> 00:15:01,610 You know, I thought, how do I say this? 276 00:15:03,250 --> 00:15:04,730 You don't know what someone will do. 277 00:15:05,550 --> 00:15:07,090 You know, you just don't know. 278 00:15:07,390 --> 00:15:09,630 And if they've shown you a certain pattern of behavior. 279 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,200 Just to say that it won't escalate. Uh -huh. 280 00:15:12,660 --> 00:15:17,080 So it definitely was a concern of mine. You had said in the therapy session that 281 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,600 your mom didn't know about the abuse. Did you talk to her before the show 282 00:15:22,740 --> 00:15:23,740 No. 283 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:30,500 My mother... Mom, you're the most... 284 00:15:30,860 --> 00:15:36,180 Clutch mother ever my mom is terrible at everyday shit. She fills up in crisis 285 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:41,820 like no other. Thank you mommy How did she show up she text me she said Erica? 286 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,960 I'm so sorry. 287 00:15:43,100 --> 00:15:48,960 I am so sorry for you, and she did not Chastise me why didn't you come to me? 288 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,220 How could you not say anything? She was so cool and so loving and I just cannot 289 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:57,680 thank her enough for that Who in the circle knew about this? 290 00:15:58,510 --> 00:16:01,850 Well, the three of us were going to go on a trip. They were supposed to come to 291 00:16:01,850 --> 00:16:02,850 Aspen with me. 292 00:16:03,250 --> 00:16:07,410 And we couldn't leave at the right time. 293 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:09,670 And I panicked. 294 00:16:10,950 --> 00:16:12,810 And I said, I need to leave town. 295 00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:18,290 And I told them why. And I want to say, you and I spoke privately. And you go, 296 00:16:18,330 --> 00:16:21,170 Erica, why didn't you say anything? And I said, Andy, the level of shame. 297 00:16:21,890 --> 00:16:24,570 The level of shame that comes with this. 298 00:16:25,430 --> 00:16:26,530 But you know what I realized? 299 00:16:27,140 --> 00:16:32,340 through this DV shame, it also brought up a whole lot of other shame. Shame 300 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:33,239 about Tom. 301 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,980 You know, I walked on ice a lot with Tom. 302 00:16:36,220 --> 00:16:40,600 Like, looking back at it, you know, it's always been ice. It was constantly an 303 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:45,880 interrogation. It was constantly, you know, a battle, you know? 304 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:48,840 Do you think he was emotionally abusive to you, Tom? 305 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:51,780 Yeah. 306 00:16:53,140 --> 00:16:54,580 And financially abusive. 307 00:16:56,830 --> 00:17:01,710 And, you know, Tom one time did not talk to me for six weeks. 308 00:17:02,450 --> 00:17:05,790 And we lived in the same house. That's crazy. 309 00:17:07,329 --> 00:17:09,589 That's such an emotional thing. 310 00:17:10,030 --> 00:17:13,710 You know, as sweet as Tom could be, it's as vicious as Tom could be. 311 00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:19,230 Were you nervous about appearing on camera with him? Oh, fuck yes. 312 00:17:20,109 --> 00:17:21,029 You were? 313 00:17:21,030 --> 00:17:22,849 Yes, because what if I said the wrong thing? 314 00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:25,069 Right. 315 00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:28,490 But he never thought I'd get on the show. 316 00:17:28,730 --> 00:17:31,710 I remember him telling me after my first interview, you're not going to get this 317 00:17:31,710 --> 00:17:32,770 job. Oh, that's nice. 318 00:17:33,290 --> 00:17:35,590 Then when I said, oh, you know, I got the job. What an ass. 319 00:17:36,490 --> 00:17:38,730 He was kind of like, you got the job. 320 00:17:39,310 --> 00:17:40,670 Well, he's not going to tell me no. 321 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:44,750 You know, so I came on the cast. 322 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:51,700 When I think back about your first few seasons on the show, he would come 323 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:56,880 when you were performing and he would play this part of this, like, proud 324 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,260 husband. Sorry -eyed husband, yeah. 325 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:06,860 I was really proud of you. Were you? Yeah. Thank you. That was cool. Thank 326 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:07,920 I appreciate that. 327 00:18:07,940 --> 00:18:10,680 You know how many times I've wondered how much of that was an act? 328 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,580 Oh. In the moment, did you wonder? 329 00:18:13,060 --> 00:18:14,800 You know, you want to believe. 330 00:18:15,610 --> 00:18:19,810 That your partner loves and supports you, but you know when it was fucked up 331 00:18:19,810 --> 00:18:24,570 Which is it's very obvious when you said to me. I didn't like it that Tom didn't 332 00:18:24,570 --> 00:18:30,630 come see you on Broadway. Yeah, I did like He also did not read my book I 333 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:35,610 remember yeah, and by the way you were cleaning up that mess on the couch And I 334 00:18:35,610 --> 00:18:40,710 was saying to you. I think that's weird and you were like do you what is Tom 335 00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:45,140 think he hasn't read it either? No one's read it No one's read it in my family. 336 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:46,620 I think that's weird. 337 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,260 Yeah, what's weird about it? 338 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,660 I was riding for him very hard. Yeah. 339 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:58,240 Having that hindsight and being able to look at it. You know, I was in the 340 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,360 Tom Girardi influence. 341 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,660 You told Sutton that you don't believe that visiting Tom will give you closure. 342 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:09,400 No, I do not. Especially since he may not even remember who you are. 343 00:19:09,860 --> 00:19:12,660 If there was one question that you could ask him. 344 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:15,060 What would it be? 345 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,080 You told Sutton that you don't believe that visiting Tom will give you closure. 346 00:19:36,340 --> 00:19:39,800 No, I do not. Especially since he may not even remember who you are. 347 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,060 If there was one question that you could ask him. 348 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:44,500 What would it be? 349 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,200 Wow, that's a good question. 350 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,080 Why? 351 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Why? 352 00:19:56,540 --> 00:20:00,360 Why would you throw me out like that? 353 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,040 You know? 354 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,060 Because... If you think about it, like I'm in an almost impossible situation. 355 00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:12,820 I'm swimming under all of these lawsuits. 356 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,700 And the $26 million thing has been for years. They sued me for that right away. 357 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:20,160 And that's coming up? Yeah. 358 00:20:21,740 --> 00:20:22,960 Worst possible case. 359 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,320 You have found that you owe somebody $25 million. 360 00:20:26,620 --> 00:20:31,160 What the hell do you do then? File for bankruptcy? You can file for bankruptcy 361 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,560 or you can fight it out in court. And you can... Duke it out. 362 00:20:34,860 --> 00:20:36,300 You know, you can go to trial. 363 00:20:36,540 --> 00:20:41,680 You can cut a deal. You can die in the streets. I have no idea. 364 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:48,660 Dorit, in Italy, you questioned whether Erica was actually going through 365 00:20:48,660 --> 00:20:50,420 a fuck ton. 366 00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:52,520 She's going through a fuck ton. 367 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,180 We're all going through a fuck ton, Rachel. 368 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:55,700 You're going through a fuck ton? 369 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Surely you knew that she was going through stuff. So what did you mean by 370 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,780 So, you know, first of all, when I was in Italy, I had a lot on my mind. 371 00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:14,340 We had been talking a lot the three weeks leading up to Italy. 372 00:21:14,780 --> 00:21:19,140 And there was no mention of the trial coming up. In fact, the first time I 373 00:21:19,140 --> 00:21:23,940 it was in the Hamptons when Rachel saw it in the tabloids. 374 00:21:24,420 --> 00:21:25,760 Eric and I never spoke about it. 375 00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:31,060 So that was not even the top of my mind. If I'm not having the conversation, I'm 376 00:21:31,060 --> 00:21:32,060 not thinking about it. 377 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,840 Your reaction was? On the one hand, I can see why she's got her own problems 378 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,960 she's very self -involved. 379 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,060 On the other hand, I've been talking about this shit for six years. 380 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,680 Not really. 381 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,480 Yeah, I've been going through it. This case has been around a long time. 382 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,440 But I also don't expect you to be keeping up with every fucking thing I'm 383 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,960 However, we have talked about it. And whether we talked about it five months 384 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,580 or two years ago, we're close. 385 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:00,040 Yeah, no, I know. 386 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,280 That's why it hurts. 387 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,720 I love you, and I'm scared for you. 388 00:22:06,420 --> 00:22:08,800 I don't want to overload my friends all the time. 389 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,420 Well, I'm sorry you're going through it. But we also shouldn't have to mention 390 00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:16,940 it all the time to have our friends be sympathetic. Right. 391 00:22:18,580 --> 00:22:20,980 We're all going through stuff. 392 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:27,160 So, Kyle, you said Dorit never once asked about how you're doing this year. 393 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:32,800 Ladies, does anyone feel like Dorit took the time to ask about their lives, or 394 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,120 was she in her own moment? 395 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:38,140 Well, I clearly say, yeah, she did. Right. 396 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,960 That I didn't ask Kyle how... No, me. 397 00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:44,800 You said he just asked you. Well, you know, Kyle doesn't talk about her life. 398 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,080 That's not... And she doesn't... I, listen, I don't talk about my separation 399 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,420 much as you, but I'm also not asked. You know, I have had stuff going on, too, 400 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,960 and I do feel that you... 401 00:22:56,580 --> 00:23:00,300 are so wrapped up in your own situation that you're not realizing that other 402 00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:02,100 people are going through a lot of stuff, too. Yeah, well, she said that at the 403 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,700 table. You know, Bo's is going through, you know, the fertility. 404 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,440 And what Erica's going through. And Sutton. Everybody here. 405 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,300 Sorry. And it didn't feel like you were... Sorry, Bo, please. 406 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,560 Oh, yeah, no. No, no, no. I don't think I was part of the question. No, no, she 407 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,520 said everyone has something going on. 408 00:23:14,780 --> 00:23:19,400 I didn't say you did not. You're suggesting that I don't care. Oh, I'm 409 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,080 suggesting you don't care about Bo's. 410 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:28,320 I'm saying we all have stuff, but I'm a very, very empathetic person. In fact, I 411 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,640 don't think there's a single person here that would suggest that I wouldn't be 412 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,640 interested or care about things that other people are going through. 413 00:23:36,620 --> 00:23:41,060 So I resent that. I always have thought that about you. I think what you're 414 00:23:41,060 --> 00:23:42,820 going through right now has made you less like that. 415 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:47,840 I know that everyone has stuff going on in their lives. And my point was, I 416 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,860 think that you are so... 417 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,060 in the zone with your issue that you're not thinking about that with other 418 00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:54,680 people. Right, and I'm telling you you're wrong. 419 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,980 Okay. Okay. This year, as I have said multiple times and again. Yes, I know 420 00:24:00,980 --> 00:24:05,140 weren't going through it. Okay, so I was overwhelmed. But when I got to Italy, 421 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:10,100 it was a different ballgame. Okay, I want to bring it back to our current 422 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:12,460 relationship. It's been how long? 423 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:14,300 Since June, July. 424 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,740 Nine months. Nine months, yeah. 425 00:24:16,180 --> 00:24:17,180 Yeah. 426 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,500 That's great. Thank you. How are things going in the relationship? 427 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,140 Thank you so much. It's good. Has your son met him? Yes. And what does your son 428 00:24:24,140 --> 00:24:28,120 think? Oh my God, you're talking to like the ultimate G .I. Joe. My son's 429 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,480 probably more in love with this man than I could ever be. 430 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:31,700 Wow. 431 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,100 Let's call him G .I. John. 432 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:35,140 G .I. John. 433 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,280 That's a good nickname. 434 00:24:37,660 --> 00:24:44,580 How has what happened to you impacted who you are in your current 435 00:24:44,580 --> 00:24:47,750 relationship? I really enjoy the men that I'm dating. 436 00:24:48,430 --> 00:24:50,910 And so I don't have those same concerns. 437 00:24:51,170 --> 00:24:52,170 You feel safe. 438 00:24:52,330 --> 00:24:53,330 I do. You feel safe. 439 00:24:53,890 --> 00:24:56,590 Things seem to be going well. Day by day. Day by day. 440 00:24:57,410 --> 00:24:59,010 We're going to leave it there. We'll be right back. 441 00:25:00,170 --> 00:25:02,870 I need everyone to step out, please. We got to go. We got an hour. 442 00:25:03,250 --> 00:25:06,210 That's the Chanel makeup kit that you used three minutes ago. 443 00:25:06,810 --> 00:25:10,910 Three. Did I give you that makeup kit for that Chanel cosmetic bag? 444 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:12,210 I did. 445 00:25:12,570 --> 00:25:13,570 Doctor. 446 00:25:14,379 --> 00:25:16,380 That's how much you've meant to me. 447 00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:17,660 Same. 448 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:23,020 What? What's happening? 449 00:25:24,860 --> 00:25:25,860 You get what you get. 450 00:25:26,820 --> 00:25:28,140 Some weird shit, Erica. 451 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,640 Coming up. 452 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:36,820 I can afford to spend $4 ,000 being judged especially from you, out of all 453 00:25:36,820 --> 00:25:39,380 people. By the way, I'm not in the same financial position as you. I'm sorry. 454 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,580 We are back with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. 455 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:53,660 Last year, Dorit iconically dragged a cigarette, but this season her friends 456 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:57,360 warned her against dragging PK too hard in public. 457 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,960 And as Dorit sought to be unburdened financially via an exciting new book 458 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:08,160 she couldn't help but feel like Kyle was reading right from PK's playbook. Watch 459 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,160 this. 460 00:26:09,260 --> 00:26:14,720 When I saw PK kissing that scene version of Dorit, First, I rolled my eyes. 461 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,660 Then I threw up a little. 462 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:19,360 The next day, you filed. 463 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,640 It was that day. 464 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,800 You know, I'm hearing, like, complete the opposite, that Drew is putting him 465 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,200 through a really hard time, making it hard for him to see the kids. 466 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,540 Last year, she was saying things that, you know, obviously came out, you know, 467 00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:33,000 how he's parenting and things like that. 468 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:35,020 That makes me nervous. 469 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:36,260 It's adding fuel to the fire. 470 00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:40,740 I just don't think it's smart to be speaking so negatively about your ex so 471 00:26:40,740 --> 00:26:41,740 publicly. 472 00:26:42,030 --> 00:26:45,170 It's going to make your divorce down the line much more difficult. 473 00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:52,250 Do you remember when you and I had dinner and I 474 00:26:52,250 --> 00:26:55,870 said to you, I don't think it's a good idea to bash the father of your 475 00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:58,630 Why do you think I said that? Do I remember that? I can remember. 476 00:27:01,330 --> 00:27:05,750 I think when it comes to anything about this divorce between Dorit and PK, Kyle 477 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:07,870 should just be quiet because there's no winning here. 478 00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:18,070 What you have kicked off and started is what's really 479 00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:21,450 going to come back and kick me in the ass. Go up, Sheree. 480 00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:28,930 Okay, so Dory, you said that what Kyle is doing is going to come back and bite 481 00:27:28,930 --> 00:27:30,290 you in the ass. Has that happened? 482 00:27:30,690 --> 00:27:31,690 Oh, yeah. 483 00:27:31,710 --> 00:27:32,710 In what way? 484 00:27:33,290 --> 00:27:35,950 Well, PK was sending me clearly... 485 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:41,660 Kyle was relaying information to Mo about me in the season, and PK was 486 00:27:41,660 --> 00:27:47,120 me towards the end of the season, saying, apparently, you're not doing so 487 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:49,900 Apparently, you know. I didn't say anything about that. 488 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:54,840 Oh, he just, I mean, PK just, poof, got it out of the sky. No. He's a psychic. 489 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,820 No, someone's saying something that's not me. 490 00:27:57,020 --> 00:27:59,720 Okay, well, anyway. So you can't keep saying things that you've been. I can 491 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,120 you that now that it's, listen, you have to be, you know, for somebody who's so 492 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:11,970 concerned. If she doesn't realize that suggesting that I am erratic, that 493 00:28:11,970 --> 00:28:16,810 I'm not myself, not once thinking she's in an acrimonious divorce. I'm not in 494 00:28:16,810 --> 00:28:18,510 your situation. I filed for divorce. 495 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:21,410 Telling me, you told me once in private. That's why we're telling you don't fuel 496 00:28:21,410 --> 00:28:21,949 the fire. 497 00:28:21,950 --> 00:28:27,370 So then why do you think fueling the fire by suggesting that I am erratic, by 498 00:28:27,370 --> 00:28:30,090 making sure. I already said that was the wrong choice of words, but she's going 499 00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:32,410 to hear this too. Kyle, making it a storyline. 500 00:28:33,530 --> 00:28:36,090 Yeah, and you know what you didn't see? Is that they were having that 501 00:28:36,090 --> 00:28:38,350 conversation with me as well, and that part wasn't filmed. 502 00:28:38,990 --> 00:28:40,210 You missed it last night. 503 00:28:40,670 --> 00:28:41,670 I lost Dory. 504 00:28:42,110 --> 00:28:44,110 I'm not kidding, for like 45 minutes. 505 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:45,310 Where did you find her? 506 00:28:45,470 --> 00:28:47,010 In the fucking smoking section outside. 507 00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:52,030 Like, but here's the thing. Had I known there was a smoking section, that would 508 00:28:52,030 --> 00:28:53,110 have been the first place I looked. 509 00:28:53,410 --> 00:28:54,470 She disappears sometimes. 510 00:28:54,850 --> 00:28:57,350 But like, you can't do that. I had a fucking heart attack. 511 00:28:57,630 --> 00:28:58,630 Like, you can't do that. 512 00:28:58,850 --> 00:28:59,910 You keep saying this. 513 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,020 So I'm going to go to each and every one. Amanda, did you go to Kyle and say, 514 00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:05,680 Dorit is acting erratic, manic? 515 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,520 Did you go to her? No, she didn't say those words. I had my own words. Did you 516 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,219 go to Kyle? 517 00:29:10,220 --> 00:29:14,140 Dorit, that's not what I'm saying. Stop saying you didn't see them coming to me. 518 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,160 I used my words that I already told you, but you don't listen. Kyle, you don't 519 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,440 realize that what you're saying. 520 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,760 Related it to my own experience and I even said this and I even said this a 521 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,560 number of times I equated it to how I felt after my separation that I was I 522 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:35,940 tend to get OCD and you know like all over the place like III mean I get very 523 00:29:35,940 --> 00:29:37,280 ADHD and I might not 524 00:29:37,980 --> 00:29:41,960 clear and, you know, maybe working out too much and, like, not focused and, 525 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,160 like, all over the place and scattered. 526 00:29:43,460 --> 00:29:46,560 That's what I meant. And it became this big, huge thing that it shouldn't have 527 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,240 been. The word erratic. It's not a big, huge thing, Kyle. 528 00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:52,000 It's not a big, because you made it. It's not that big of a fucking deal. 529 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,840 explain to you why it's a big deal. Bo talked about her financial concerns. She 530 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,240 came and she told me, never mind. Leave Bo out of it. Point at this, Kyle. You 531 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,100 know full well. You're trying to just focus on me and make me laugh out when I 532 00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:05,520 wasn't saying things to be bossy or mean about you. 533 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,480 Okay. Kyle, do me a favor. 534 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Let's stick with one thing right now. I'm making one point. Okay. I spent $4 535 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,800 ,000 in one of Rachel's friends' shops that they cleared for us to shop. 536 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,460 Nobody bought anything but me. 537 00:30:21,740 --> 00:30:25,660 I didn't want us to go into that shop and not buy anything. They had cute 538 00:30:25,660 --> 00:30:28,320 things. I can afford to spend $4 ,000. 539 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:34,620 I'm very lucky to. Yeah. Being judged by you, having you go and speak to the 540 00:30:34,620 --> 00:30:37,580 girls, the group, about, oh, it's a lot of money she's spending. 541 00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:42,660 Kyle, especially from you out of all people. Let me ask you a question. By 542 00:30:42,660 --> 00:30:44,500 way, I'm not in the same financial position as you. I'm sorry. 543 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,160 How do you know my financial position? 544 00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:51,600 Well, the house came foreclosed on. 545 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:56,420 Because you speak to Mo and Mo speaks to PJ? No, because it was in the news. 546 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,900 Okay, so I really hope to God things stay amicable with you and Mo. I really 547 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,280 and I hope to God nothing turns. 548 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,300 Me too. But if and when it does, and you're dealing with what I have had to 549 00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:15,840 with, maybe, maybe you'll find it difficult to sit in rooms and 550 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,700 when you're bursting at the seams and you want to actually be talking to your 551 00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:24,180 girlfriends and have a little bit of support only to have people either 552 00:31:24,180 --> 00:31:26,680 you, talking behind your back, or... 553 00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:30,280 suggesting, I don't know, Moe, like that chance of surprise. 554 00:31:31,940 --> 00:31:36,460 Mimi from Dallas said it was disappointing to see Moe downplaying 555 00:31:36,460 --> 00:31:40,400 like it's no big deal. Oh, my God. And even admitting that he drinks with him, 556 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:45,240 that's called an enabler. I want him to be involved, but he has to show up clear 557 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,700 -headed. He's always been clear -headed. Moe, he started drinking again. 558 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,360 If I go to dinner with him, he's... 559 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,340 ordering, you know, a glass of wine, maybe two. We're not sitting there 560 00:31:55,340 --> 00:31:59,860 it. He didn't stop drinking for a year because just for a casual thing. 561 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,720 He stopped drinking because he needed to stop drinking. 562 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,840 There's always two sides to every story. 563 00:32:06,820 --> 00:32:08,760 That's such a guy thing. That's called guys. 564 00:32:08,980 --> 00:32:12,300 That's such a bro thing. No, that's not called guys. That's what dudes do. 565 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:15,540 He's not a babysitter. He came in as a soldier. 566 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,460 Mo doesn't have a problem. 567 00:32:19,150 --> 00:32:24,270 And if Mo really, really, really cared about him, Mo would be saying to him, 568 00:32:24,350 --> 00:32:25,710 listen, buddy, you know what? 569 00:32:26,170 --> 00:32:30,890 Let's slow down. I've seen guys at their darkest point and none of their friends 570 00:32:30,890 --> 00:32:33,230 until they are literally on the ground. 571 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:36,770 I don't want to stick up for the men. 572 00:32:37,150 --> 00:32:39,830 Sorry, I love men, Andy. So do I. 573 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,440 Moving on to your finances, last year on this stage, we talked about the news 574 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,980 that your home had gone into pre -foreclosure. You said at the time that 575 00:32:51,980 --> 00:32:52,980 resolved it. 576 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,240 Yes, or so I thought, by the way. However, just this week, there are new 577 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,960 indicating the house is in trouble again with a debt of over $800 ,000. 578 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,200 It is in pre -foreclosure, and PK hadn't been paying the mortgage. 579 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:09,520 Could you downsize? 580 00:33:10,260 --> 00:33:11,260 It's not... 581 00:33:11,390 --> 00:33:12,650 It's not about staying in the house. 582 00:33:13,110 --> 00:33:17,150 It's about I believed he was paying the mortgage. Oh, which is wrong. And so I'm 583 00:33:17,150 --> 00:33:22,790 blindsided. Now, listen, it's my fault as well because at this point I 584 00:33:22,790 --> 00:33:26,930 trust or believe without checking. But were you checking monthly that it was 585 00:33:26,930 --> 00:33:27,930 being paid? No, no. 586 00:33:28,830 --> 00:33:31,810 PK is saying he's going to bring the house current. 587 00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:36,310 Then I'm going to put the house on the market and find a house for the kids and 588 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:40,030 I. This is the plan right now. Thank you. Okay. But it could change. Okay. 589 00:33:42,070 --> 00:33:46,050 From what I've experienced, anything can change. Right. Like maybe he doesn't 590 00:33:46,050 --> 00:33:49,410 bring the house current, but you need to get in a situation where you can be 591 00:33:49,410 --> 00:33:51,990 flexible. I know exactly what I have to do. 592 00:33:53,310 --> 00:33:58,770 Even before this news, people were shocked and concerned about your lack of 593 00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:03,950 knowledge about your finances. I want to clear something up because you made a 594 00:34:03,950 --> 00:34:10,370 statement that I outsourced my financial well -being to a man and it didn't go 595 00:34:10,370 --> 00:34:11,370 well. 596 00:34:22,889 --> 00:34:28,310 I want to clear something up because you made a statement that I outsourced my 597 00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:33,190 financial well -being to a man and it didn't go well. Maybe she's intimidated. 598 00:34:33,790 --> 00:34:37,550 Because I'm young and successful and I'm not financially dependent on a man and 599 00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:40,810 she outsourced her financial well -being to a man and it didn't go well. 600 00:34:41,650 --> 00:34:44,389 PK was coming out of bankruptcy when I met him. 601 00:34:44,590 --> 00:34:47,530 Uh -huh. Him and I built everything together. 602 00:34:47,870 --> 00:34:52,150 Okay. So that statement, not only was it inaccurate... 603 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:53,639 It was offensive. 604 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,960 It does feel like you're also insulting a lot of women who decided to have a 605 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,420 child and raise their kids and not make money. 606 00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:02,060 That's how it feels. 607 00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:05,280 But you can have a man be in charge of money and still know what's going on 608 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,200 your money, and you not make the money personally, and that can be a totally 609 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,200 wonderful life. 610 00:35:09,260 --> 00:35:11,760 I thought you were talking about me, and I was upset. I thought you were talking 611 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,660 about me, too. But I can say... I mean, but a lot of people can put their... I 612 00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:17,460 know. I was shocked. I was like, she doesn't fucking know me at all. 613 00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:21,320 What I would want for all women and all of us is to know what's going on with 614 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,520 our money. And I don't think not knowing is a good plan. 615 00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,160 Agreed. But I could see how that would be hurtful, and I'm sorry. 616 00:35:27,260 --> 00:35:31,020 So as we close out, Dori, what is the latest on your divorce proceedings? 617 00:35:31,460 --> 00:35:35,760 Listen, every time you ask me, how are things with you and PK, I really want to 618 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,820 be saying we're in a great place. Everything's great, but it's not the 619 00:35:38,820 --> 00:35:39,820 And you know what? 620 00:35:39,940 --> 00:35:41,080 It wasn't the truth. 621 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,780 Right now, things, thank God, after the kid's birthday, this is the first time 622 00:35:45,780 --> 00:35:46,800 in almost two years, Andy. 623 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,460 So today, as we sit here today, things are better? Yes. Good. Thank God. That 624 00:35:51,460 --> 00:35:55,340 is, by the way, the most important thing. And I've been waiting for you to 625 00:35:55,340 --> 00:35:58,780 me, and I couldn't wait to tell you. Tell me about it. That's great. 626 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,040 All right. 627 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,640 Well, this season, money queen Amanda Francis was the new girl on the block, 628 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:10,400 even though she lived on a very familiar block in Kyle's old Bel -Air house. 629 00:36:10,660 --> 00:36:15,860 But some people thought this self -proclaimed breadwinner spent a little 630 00:36:15,860 --> 00:36:21,460 much time buttering herself up while only offering crumbs about her career 631 00:36:21,460 --> 00:36:23,560 her traumatic past. Watch. 632 00:36:25,410 --> 00:36:29,630 I'm best known for my best -selling book, Rich as Fuck, which helps women 633 00:36:29,630 --> 00:36:32,870 redefine their relationship with money and manifests more into their lives. 634 00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:34,050 She's getting married, too. 635 00:36:34,190 --> 00:36:35,190 When's your date? 636 00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:36,310 10 -10 -26. 637 00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:38,250 Ooh, that sounds good. 638 00:36:39,070 --> 00:36:41,670 People say you can't have it all, and I do. 639 00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:43,470 I do have it all. 640 00:36:43,770 --> 00:36:47,530 But I'm the breadwinner. I always have been. But he's very motivated to be able 641 00:36:47,530 --> 00:36:51,150 to take care of me. I love being the fucking breadwinner. I really do love 642 00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:53,550 It was my money, I should be clear, when I bought it. 643 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,380 I mean, we have renovated together, but I did buy it. Yeah. Sorry. 644 00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,680 Why would you share that? 645 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,600 That doesn't, like, add value to the conversation. 646 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,198 You know? 647 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,140 I found that I had a gift around, like, the energetic part of money. 648 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,420 I have no formal business experience. 649 00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:15,400 But I was like, let's make this a personal development brand. 650 00:37:16,220 --> 00:37:20,380 What is this frou -frou mess we're talking about? I have all the stats. 651 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,380 80 % of people who buy a course buy a second course. I have less than a 3 % 652 00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:28,160 refund rate, which is unheard of in my industry. That is a very, very low 653 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,700 of people wanting refunds on digital products. 654 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,240 So here's the problem, Amanda. You are defending your business instead of 655 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:37,960 telling us what you actually do. The baseline of Amanda's defense mechanism, 656 00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:41,280 whenever she gets criticism, is that she's insecure. 657 00:37:41,620 --> 00:37:45,320 I went looking up her book, and I see this blog that says, I was in a cult. 658 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,698 I'm sorry, what? 659 00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:51,300 Do you think I'm fake? I think that you are not being clear about your life. I 660 00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:54,280 can't have a life that looks good and feels good. Well, your life is not pure. 661 00:37:55,540 --> 00:37:59,460 How do they expect me to be more open when they put me down and question 662 00:37:59,460 --> 00:38:01,120 everything I do at every turn? 663 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,640 She's built a cult. 664 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:05,700 What happened? She walked away from one and built one. 665 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,200 This has got to stop. 666 00:38:13,450 --> 00:38:18,910 All right. So, Amanda, not since Camille Grammer season one have I seen someone 667 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:22,130 enter this group and light up the audience. 668 00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:23,288 Yeah, you're welcome. 669 00:38:23,290 --> 00:38:26,490 So, let's start with the positive, shall we? Sure. Yes. 670 00:38:26,690 --> 00:38:29,750 Maura from New Hampshire said, you know what I love about Amanda? She got all 671 00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:33,150 the ladies activated and she barely had to try. 672 00:38:33,450 --> 00:38:38,050 To real reality, said Amanda, has a cutest family and a very hot husband. I 673 00:38:38,050 --> 00:38:39,050 this for her. 674 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaking of your hot husband, I saw that the two of you got married. Yeah. 675 00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:45,900 Congratulations. You had your first of two ceremonies. 676 00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:49,660 Yeah, at 9 -9 -25, we had our courthouse wedding. 677 00:38:49,980 --> 00:38:55,580 And the big you coming in on the helicopter and him coming on in the 678 00:38:55,620 --> 00:38:58,940 Yeah. That's... 10 -10 -26, yeah. Wow. 679 00:38:59,180 --> 00:39:04,040 So, on the other hand, many fans were taken aback by how you speak about your 680 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,670 husband. Nora from Topeka said, does Amanda realize every time she talks 681 00:39:08,670 --> 00:39:10,910 her husband, she makes him sound like a freeloader? 682 00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:16,490 Okay, Eddie's not a freeloader. He has a job. He owns a company. He works. He's 683 00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:17,388 a wonderful man. 684 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:22,110 He's a good, good, good, good man. He takes care of me in a million ways every 685 00:39:22,110 --> 00:39:26,270 day. He knows I make more money than him. He knows I'm super proud of it. How 686 00:39:26,270 --> 00:39:29,050 does he feel about you putting that on blast, though? 687 00:39:30,330 --> 00:39:34,390 My ex would have died. I don't think he would consider it on blast. Did he say 688 00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:35,390 anything to you about that? 689 00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:39,770 He said, hey, the only thing was when you paid for the house. 690 00:39:40,050 --> 00:39:45,590 No, no, no, because I paid for the house. Listen, for what I do, it is in 691 00:39:45,590 --> 00:39:49,130 that I want women to know always that they can do it. 692 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,300 But out of respect for your husband, who is so adoring. I don't think he 693 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:53,300 considers it disrespectful. 694 00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:55,880 He wouldn't see that as disrespectful? 695 00:39:56,580 --> 00:40:00,800 No, the house, I think, was fair. I did buy it. We renovated it together. 696 00:40:01,060 --> 00:40:04,720 But what did he say this season? He said what? You were going to say... Uh -oh, 697 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:09,080 he was like that I make more... I make more in a month than he makes in a year, 698 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,060 specifically. He's like, yes, that is true. 699 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,520 And maybe you didn't have to say it that way. 700 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,200 And it is true. 701 00:40:16,940 --> 00:40:21,760 But do you see how you could plant seeds of contempt that blossom years down the 702 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,360 road? You do plan to be with this man forever, right? Yeah. Right. Okay. So 703 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:32,640 you say things like this, they get buried and then they fester. They could. 704 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,920 Maybe. But as the show comes out, as you see the articles, as you see these 705 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,340 comments, we are in bed together talking. There's me saying, hey, I meant 706 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,040 My point to you is this. 707 00:40:43,470 --> 00:40:47,990 everything is on the upswing everything is beautiful the seeds you plant now 708 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:54,490 they will blossom when it fucks up and you will you will pay for that 709 00:40:54,490 --> 00:41:00,690 later but amanda i think what he's saying right now he he's not saying that 710 00:41:00,690 --> 00:41:05,370 you're telling me how my husband feels no i'm telling you that when you 711 00:41:05,370 --> 00:41:10,530 emasculate someone who adores you and loves you it doesn't matter how much 712 00:41:10,530 --> 00:41:13,820 money I've made in my career than my husband if I did. 713 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,380 I'm still, there is not one moment in my entire life where I have said that to 714 00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:23,500 anyone, let alone on television. But you don't teach women that they can make 715 00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:27,000 money. I don't teach women that they can make money. No, no, you inspire women. 716 00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:30,260 But it, absolutely you inspire women that they can make money. But this is my 717 00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:36,040 job. Like, I look at myself a lot. With my marriage, my husband, if he had said 718 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,920 those things about me. 719 00:41:38,410 --> 00:41:42,790 When we were 40 years old, like, well, I'm the bread maker. I bought the house. 720 00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:47,890 I did this. I did that. And here's little old me, like, with a baby in my 721 00:41:47,930 --> 00:41:52,310 like, great for you, you know. But men have always traditionally made the 722 00:41:52,570 --> 00:41:56,190 Then it builds up resentment. This isn't a gang up on you. No. This is life. 723 00:41:56,190 --> 00:41:57,250 This is for being helpful. 724 00:41:57,510 --> 00:42:01,530 This is life. I asked him if he felt emasculated. He said absolutely not. 725 00:42:01,530 --> 00:42:02,890 very secure. We're like not far. 726 00:42:03,130 --> 00:42:04,130 Okay. 727 00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:09,720 So. The criticism was not limited to how you speak about Eddie. You were getting 728 00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:15,100 critiqued about millennial phrases, bragging about designers, or the money 729 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:18,380 of it all. Was there one thing that surprised you that you were hearing from 730 00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:19,500 people that you were like, really? 731 00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:23,700 The designer stuff a little bit or the bragging stuff a little bit because I 732 00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,960 thought I was on a show about rich women with cool shit. I thought there was a 733 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,980 lot of designer talk. That's one part of the show you're on. That's not the lead 734 00:42:30,980 --> 00:42:33,360 part of the show you're on. I didn't think I was leading with it. The lead 735 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,080 is your fucking heart and soul. 736 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,400 And we've had a hard time getting to your heart and soul. 737 00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:44,370 Ding dong on Twitter said, Amanda's need to one -up and compete with everything 738 00:42:44,370 --> 00:42:46,010 the women have acquired is exhausting. 739 00:42:46,290 --> 00:42:50,310 Dirty Jenny on Twitter said, what is up with Amanda and mentioning the label so 740 00:42:50,310 --> 00:42:54,010 much? What is she trying to prove? You're talking to a Hilton, for goodness 741 00:42:54,010 --> 00:42:55,690 sake. I think everyone brought up label. 742 00:42:56,330 --> 00:42:58,950 Often on the show, I would bring it up. There would be this, like, pause, 743 00:42:59,090 --> 00:43:00,029 silence after. 744 00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:04,290 But other people would say, this is this, this is this. We are on a set of 745 00:43:04,290 --> 00:43:08,110 Drive, let me point out. Do you feel like you had to do that when you came 746 00:43:08,110 --> 00:43:12,510 this group? Because I think it came off like that. Yes, and I saw her use in 747 00:43:12,510 --> 00:43:17,550 Sedona saying, make sure you get a shot of this, telling the cameraman to please 748 00:43:17,550 --> 00:43:19,730 make sure you get a shot of my Chanel bag. 749 00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:22,190 You are sitting on a couch. I thought it was cute. 750 00:43:22,590 --> 00:43:23,590 No. 751 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,240 Cannot lead with that shit. We are too old and too experienced. 752 00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:46,200 I saw her use in Sedona telling the cameraman to please make sure you get a 753 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,260 of my Chanel bag. 754 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,780 You are with... I thought it was cute. 755 00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:51,020 No. 756 00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:53,620 Cannot lead with that shit. 757 00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:55,850 We are too old and too experienced. 758 00:43:56,750 --> 00:44:00,950 We want you, not the veneer. But I remember, I think, the misconception 759 00:44:00,950 --> 00:44:02,850 was somehow hiding me. 760 00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:04,370 It felt that way. 761 00:44:04,970 --> 00:44:06,290 I should stop talking. 762 00:44:06,890 --> 00:44:11,430 Rachel, you said you have a hard time with Amanda because she acts strong, but 763 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:16,270 she plays the victim at the same time. I think the conflict that I've had is 764 00:44:16,270 --> 00:44:20,350 what you just said about how you want to teach women and how you want to... 765 00:44:20,510 --> 00:44:23,650 welcome in every room and everyone knows who you are and whatever i said i want 766 00:44:23,650 --> 00:44:27,030 to walk in everyone over and over you said that every room you walk into 767 00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:30,750 everyone knows who you are outside of our group i'm in a world where everyone 768 00:44:30,750 --> 00:44:34,570 gets me and everyone loves it all my friends take my courses and everyone has 769 00:44:34,570 --> 00:44:37,370 this foundation of like what amanda's about and i haven't been in a world in a 770 00:44:37,370 --> 00:44:41,430 long time where people didn't know who i was and what i built and like why 771 00:44:42,290 --> 00:44:46,130 No, I said that I'm used to when I walk into a room, people know who I am and 772 00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:49,070 what I do. They know my heart. They know my intention. Okay, no, no, you didn't 773 00:44:49,070 --> 00:44:51,610 follow it with that. You did not. I did. I explained it. 774 00:44:51,830 --> 00:44:54,570 No, but in the moment you didn't follow it. But in the moment. But that's not 775 00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:55,229 what I meant. 776 00:44:55,230 --> 00:44:58,490 Okay. That's how you took it. It's not how I took it. It's what you said. 777 00:44:58,690 --> 00:45:03,030 So I guess what I'm saying is like because when you say those things and 778 00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:05,310 followed by the explanation of why you're saying it. 779 00:45:05,930 --> 00:45:09,650 How could I hear it differently, right? So I'm saying, who actually said that? 780 00:45:09,650 --> 00:45:13,570 Because if you knew who I was and what I do, you'd know that that's not what I 781 00:45:13,570 --> 00:45:14,570 meant. But I don't. 782 00:45:15,310 --> 00:45:19,070 We're trying to know you. You've rubbed everybody the wrong way. 783 00:45:19,330 --> 00:45:21,050 It's hard to do that in this group. 784 00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:22,270 Well, I did it. 785 00:45:23,310 --> 00:45:27,270 There was a lot of, I feel uncomfortable. I feel unsafe. 786 00:45:27,630 --> 00:45:32,210 I feel this. And that's very victim -y rather than I'm the strong person 787 00:45:32,210 --> 00:45:33,630 believing in. 788 00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:38,970 who I am as a woman and what I teach and how strong I am and how I lead. So 789 00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:42,970 guess what? Don't come at me like that. What are you talking about? Not like, 790 00:45:42,970 --> 00:45:45,970 this doesn't feel good to me. You go into victim mode. 791 00:45:46,290 --> 00:45:48,150 It's just a contradiction, that's all. 792 00:45:48,450 --> 00:45:51,990 Like, okay, are you the victim or are you the leader? Or are you uncomfortable 793 00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:53,250 or are you unsafe? 794 00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:56,270 Yeah, good question. Because life is uncomfortable. 795 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,680 And that's how you grow. 796 00:45:59,140 --> 00:45:59,919 We're in uncomfortable. 797 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,700 Is this a show? If you're having fun on this show. This show is uncomfortable. 798 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,999 This show is uncomfortable. 799 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,500 This show is uncomfortable. Yeah. I think it is very uncomfortable. 800 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:11,480 And she obviously is not used to a setting like this, which it is a lot. 801 00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:13,120 this is not an easy group to crack. 802 00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:17,400 And the audience also noted that Amanda didn't seem to be welcomed with open 803 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,760 arms. Who is? 804 00:46:19,460 --> 00:46:23,300 Tanyan on Twitter said, is anyone else finding it cringy how rude everyone's 805 00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:25,480 treating Amanda? They're not giving her a chance at all. 806 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,540 It's screaming. overwhelming jealousy kyle what's your opinion of this um well 807 00:46:31,540 --> 00:46:36,360 like i said when somebody new comes in i really do have a lot of empathy and you 808 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,400 know try to make them feel comfortable and i can sort of after this many years 809 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:45,020 see why someone acts a certain way or behave a certain way and you know maybe 810 00:46:45,020 --> 00:46:49,820 someone's not your cup of tea you know that's fine that's one thing but i don't 811 00:46:49,820 --> 00:46:54,640 think there's a reason to be unkind right like in kyle's defense she's 812 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,640 been the ambassador 813 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,140 But I mean, also, you know, it just felt like. 814 00:47:01,340 --> 00:47:04,540 Well, listen, I mean, somebody had to agree. 815 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,200 Boze would disagree with that. Boze is very nice to you. I'm kidding. I'm 816 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,720 kidding. But by the way, Boze, I've been nothing but nice to you. I know. 817 00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:15,440 Nothing but nice to you. And part of it is I'm kidding, right? Because I know. 818 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:20,440 And we talked about. But are you? I have been nothing but kind to you. And you 819 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,900 have been so kind. For two years. You have been very kind. And last year, what 820 00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:30,420 said was that I found you cold. Yeah. Because you were holding back things 821 00:47:30,420 --> 00:47:31,740 me, which is fine. 822 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,540 But it doesn't mean that, like, I felt a warm blanket. 823 00:47:35,070 --> 00:47:36,810 But I feel like we keep growing. 824 00:47:37,150 --> 00:47:39,290 I don't want to go back to where we keep going. I want to bring it back to 825 00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:42,850 Amanda. And I want to move on to your business, Amanda. You did an interview 826 00:47:42,850 --> 00:47:47,230 where you said both tried to create a personal development brand. It did not 827 00:47:47,230 --> 00:47:50,990 well. She's losing money on her courses. She told me so. Let's talk about this. 828 00:47:51,590 --> 00:47:56,570 Because when in the hell did I tell you that I was losing money on my business? 829 00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:57,710 That is crazy. 830 00:47:57,990 --> 00:48:00,130 In the vineyard. Girl, I did not tell you that. 831 00:48:00,510 --> 00:48:01,810 Why would I have told you that? 832 00:48:02,650 --> 00:48:05,450 Let's just consider our relationship at that point. 833 00:48:05,850 --> 00:48:08,950 Let's pretend for one second that I was losing money, which I'm not. 834 00:48:09,790 --> 00:48:13,050 Why would I confide that in you? It wasn't a confiding moment. It was 835 00:48:13,050 --> 00:48:17,430 essentially saying, if I'm losing money on courses, there's no way you can be 836 00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:18,408 making money. 837 00:48:18,410 --> 00:48:21,470 making money on courses and not be doing something wrong. That doesn't make any 838 00:48:21,470 --> 00:48:22,470 sense, Amanda. 839 00:48:22,610 --> 00:48:23,569 That's what you said. 840 00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:25,390 It's not what I said. I think they have it on camera. 841 00:48:25,610 --> 00:48:30,810 And they don't because I didn't say that. Online workshopping, that's not 842 00:48:30,810 --> 00:48:34,270 do for work. You know what I mean? I'm so curious about it because we have the 843 00:48:34,270 --> 00:48:38,010 NLR. Yeah, you said I don't need to make money from this. I don't. Right. I'll 844 00:48:38,010 --> 00:48:39,110 leave money on it. Yeah. 845 00:48:39,870 --> 00:48:43,970 But that's okay with me because that's the choice I made. And additionally, 846 00:48:43,970 --> 00:48:47,900 just let you know because I do need to clarify this comparison between our 847 00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:48,940 online courses. 848 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,080 You have an online business. 849 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,720 I don't have an online business. I have a teaching course based on a class I 850 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,300 taught at Harvard for three semesters. 851 00:48:58,540 --> 00:49:03,360 It gives people the opportunity to understand the keys I did not have as a 852 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,440 business person so that they understand how to negotiate for a better race, ask 853 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,700 for more promotion. 854 00:49:09,210 --> 00:49:13,790 They understand how to present in a boardroom. And so for me, it's not about 855 00:49:13,790 --> 00:49:14,790 making money. 856 00:49:14,810 --> 00:49:18,970 My point is that my class is to open the door for people who can't go to 857 00:49:18,970 --> 00:49:23,890 Harvard. You are promoting your businesses and setting up your margins 858 00:49:23,890 --> 00:49:24,890 can be rich as fuck. 859 00:49:25,570 --> 00:49:27,630 That is not my intention. 860 00:49:28,010 --> 00:49:29,550 It's a charitable venture. 861 00:49:29,810 --> 00:49:32,470 Absolutely. And so, by the way, that is not failure. 862 00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:35,010 I didn't say it was a failure. Yes, you did. 863 00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:41,660 Next week, the reunion continues. 864 00:49:42,340 --> 00:49:45,060 Jennifer Tilly talked to me about this dress. 865 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,480 This is my face on the front of it. I see that. 866 00:49:48,740 --> 00:49:50,980 Will you be asking for half of the agency? 867 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,560 Half of it's mine. 868 00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:53,700 Did he realize that? 869 00:49:54,260 --> 00:49:58,160 You told me that Amanda took out a $2 million loan just before she started 870 00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,760 filming. Well, you did. You did? 871 00:50:00,540 --> 00:50:04,900 You want to talk about the past two years, but we haven't been friends. This 872 00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:07,620 exactly it. Stop saying that we are friends.